Posts by Bart Belteshassur

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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

by Viviane in

recently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.

i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.

i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.

Bart Belteshassur

Vidqun - Any idea were we can get a copy of the TDOT on line, I can't find one? I think you'll find that most scholars agree that the city in Isa 19:18, is Heliopolis, as the oldest xisting text of Isa read city of the sun. The change to destruction is presumed to be a typical hebrew play on the word "Sun" and "Destruction".

I do not agree with you that there is no historic fulfilment of either Isa 17 and 19. Damacus was taken by Tiglath-Pileser III between 738 and 732BCE, and Egypt was invaded by Esarhaddon, all these events are recorded on ABC 1 (BM 92502), as well of the sacking of Babylon by Elam in 694, which makes Isa 20 refer to this even and not the later defeat by Cyrus.

Viviane - Are we restricting the use of a post written prophetic/ History or did you rule that out in the OP?

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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

by Viviane in

recently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.

i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.

i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.

Bart Belteshassur

Vidqun Is that a quote from someone, or your own interpretation of Isa 19:18? If it is a quote can you give a reference? Thanks.

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Does egyptian history conflict with bible history

by ninja_matty69 in

it is said to contain some 255 names if we start from column 2 row 11 (pharaoh menes).

we could ignore its omission of chaires and later cheneris mentioned by manetho as this is probably just an error on manethos part as no other lists appear to validate this entry.

statistically speaking this means that the saqqara tablet only contains 25% of the pharaohs it should contain during these timeframes, or conversely it is 75% incorrect.

Bart Belteshassur

It does not appear as if you know very much on this subject, either biblical chronology prior to 1874, or Egyptology and the history of it's chronological dates.

As you quoted dates for Shishak and Necho in your OP I am suprised you claim to have no knowledge of them. It is always prudent when quoting dates to at least remember that you have, and second to at least understand how they were derived. You appear to claim you do not know either.

How can you write a paper which you expect to be taken seriously when you confess that you do not know the developement and origins of the dates you are quoting. I will enlighten you if you wish on the two seciefic dates in question as they are the first and most important to the placing of the Egyptian timeline of traditional Egyptian chronology which was first developed in 1828. It is a fact that all those who study this subject know, and without understanding this are not really in a position to discuss it.

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Sarah Smile - Witness or Apostate?

by KW13 in

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Have you not asked them?

They will be the one who knows.

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Nebuchadnezzar's Dream--The Death of His Dynasty

by Tiresias in

following my departure from the jehovah's witnesses, i have done my own research using preterism as a primary lens.

i would like to share my understanding of daniel chapter 2:.

31 "you looked, o king, and there before you stood a large statuean enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance.

Bart Belteshassur

So what do the 10 toes represent?

Not the same as the ten horns of the Ram of Greece then?

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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

by Viviane in

recently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.

i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.

i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.

Bart Belteshassur

Phizzy - I don't where that is in Josephus, but it does sound about right. In Against Apion he states that the temple was rebuilt in the second year of Darius, if this refers to Darius II then his second is 490 years from the destruction of the temple in 70CE, 421 BCE. If you are awear of another ref can you let me know, thanks.

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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

by Viviane in

recently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.

i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.

i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.

Bart Belteshassur

Vidqun - Where is there any specific indication that that Messiah who is "cut off" is Jesus? Why would anyone draw this conclusion, there is no evidence in the text is there? And if this Messiah is Jesus in 33CE who is the Messiah who appears at the end of the first seven weeks (49 years)?

Trying to get a grip on what is being discussed here before I join in.

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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

by Viviane in

recently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.

i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.

i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.

Bart Belteshassur

Moses Joe - Post 23 "...as a general point of support for the authenticity of Jesus. Josephus was alive and saw him in action. I........I've

read Josephus and research this for myself." What exactly did you read? Did you miss out Life 1:5 ? As Josephus was not born untill 38CE I can not see how it was possible for Josephus to see Jesus in action, would you not agree? Unless you are proposing that Jesus was still visibly in action at some time after 38CE?

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"The Cyrus Cylinder"

by Doug Mason in

i suspect that i am the last one here who has read the book: the cyrus cylinder: the king of persias proclamation from ancient babylon, edited by irving finkel; published by i. b. tauris, 2013; 144 pages.. so i simply wish to record my deep admiration for the book.

it explains and analyses the cylinders text as well as providing a sympathetic account of the people involved with its ancient and modern history.

(chapter 1: the babylonian perspective; chapter 2: discovery; chapter 5: a persian perspective.

Bart Belteshassur

I'll check that out later on , thanks Doug.

OPUS - You should find the Cyrus Cylinder on line, it is ANET, 315-316 Pritchard. Just look up cyrus cylinder it should come up.

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Another bible contradiction about Jesus being king or what???

by Crazyguy in

the lies of the org continue, i was reading revelation and i came accross rev 19:6 in their bible and its states "and i heard a loud voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders.

they said: praise jah, you people, because jehovah our god, the almighty has begun to rule as king.

" then my first thought, what does it acctually say in their greek interlinear because at rev.

Bart Belteshassur

I think AnnO has got the correct grammer here without a doubt, but a more correct translation would be " had begun to reign,at sometime prior to this staement". In writing it as just has begun to reign implies that it has only happen at that imediate time, where as the tense indicates a time in the past. It is more simply underastood when the tense is qualified with a date and time but in this case it is not.

It is interesting to note that JW.Org changed the meaning of Luke 10:18 " At that he said to them "I began to behold Satan already fallen like lightening from heaven" (old NWT) and " ........I see Satan already fallen......from heaven." (new NWT). Both of these translations are wrong for the same reason and in this case the action of falling from heaven is complete not ongoing . Jesus is saying that at a time in the past which is unspecified he had been present at event when Satan fell from heaven and physically saw it happen. This statement unfortunately places the events of Rev 12:9 prior to this time and does not agree with the 1914 doctrine, neither does he say that he was doing the throwing/hurling, he was only spectating the event.

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